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Old 07-27-2010, 01:56 PM
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Well this is rather unfortunate...

http://www.freep.com/article/20100727/NEWS06/100727024/
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:19 PM
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An Estimated 840,000 Gallons of Oil is staggering....largest oil spill in Midwest history....

Anyone interested in lending a hand, may want to check out this link. This is the only one I have heard of so far for cleanup.

http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/a...coated+animals

From what I am told, the number of ducks, geese, other birds and mammals is steadily growing.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:26 PM
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We had our crews out (BCFD) along with the oil company and other independent environmental companies yesterday, as well as other local FD's for a good portion of the day. Unfortunately the river was moving too swiftly for the booms to do any good. Went and surveyed the river again today and the amount of oil coming through BC is awful. The whole river is covered in a slick and there are some fairly large tar balls coming down.

Saw a goose feeding in the median on Dickman Rd. today that had oil all over it. Surprisingly, the other 6 or so geese that were with it looked clean. This is a hell of a mess and the damage that's been done already is awful.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:28 AM
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somone needs to find out whose **** to kick and make sure they keep the boot on the throat of Enbridge. Just sayin.
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:29 AM
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I live on the Kalamazoo river below Allegan dam. The river just cleaned itself up from all the paper sludge that was puposly dumped in the river by the paper mills for years, now this! I have 600' of river frontage and I don't care to see oil or tar balls floating by my house. The river is so beautiful in the section i'm in. Plus all the wildlife it will affect is staggering to be honest. And Marrow pond was a great place to hunt and fish smallies. Not for long I guess. The only thing that may save the river below is all the dams it has to flow over before reaching us, then shortly there after Lake Michigan!!!!

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Old 07-28-2010, 08:36 AM
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If it gets below the Allegan dam, it is going to be a disaster!
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:33 AM
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WHAT THE [BLEEP] IS
GOING ON AROUND HERE?


there's this guy I know that has been convinced since college that the world will end in his lifetime and specifically, in 2012.


I used to think he was just bat crazy.

now? I'm starting to wonder...
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:16 AM
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www.response.enbridgeus.com Check out there web site for info. It's a Canadian pipeline/oil company. Approx. 19,500 barrels where spilled into the tributary creek and into the Kazoo river. This pipeline carried 1.6 billion barrels in one day in 2009 I believe. That my waterfowl hunting friends is a butt load of crude. The pipe is 30" dia. and runs from Indiana to Sarnia.

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PS: I will be watching for tar balls floating by my house in the next few days.
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I live in BC.

This is nasty. My shop is on the stretch of river affected the worst. My honey holes are gone forever. Bad thing is, the river is above the banks, and into the woods several hundred yards. It is like this a lot of the time. The oil is not just in the river. It is on all the vegatation, trees, anything within reach in the back waters, flood stages, etc. The smell is something i can't take. It is like standing behind a city bus and breathing for hours. The river will clean itself, but all these backwaters... Enbridge has mentioned nothing about these......

Along the banks by my shop I have seen lots of dead and dying geese and ducks, lots of dead fish, even a wall mounter smallmouth bass, and lots of critters covered in oil. This is a tragedy, not an oil spill.

And then the DNR guy on the news tells me it is against the law to help the birds and animals out.. I dare you to try and handcuff me at this moment. he would find himself handcuffed to the nearest tree for a day or two.

I am afraid this is going to affect my season locally. I already have a hard enough time finding spots to hunt, this just plain friggin sucks the big one. Talk about a nail in the coffin. The river still has a slick running down the middle.

Simple physics tells me the booms won't work... the ends are held, the water hits it, pushes the middle of the boom downriver, and eventually something has to give... the boom simply goes underwater and pops back up. How effective is this ? Not very.


Now they are talking about making Morrow Pond (Lake Morrow) the final holding pen. A lot of hunters use this area. It has a lot of wetlands in it. Lots and lots. Good place to hunt when the flights are here. Now they are gonna stop the oil here and clean it up. I wonder if Enbridge will pay to dredge this ? I doubt it.

Bottom line is, we can write off Morrow Pond for any hunting for then next several years, if ever.
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I really doubt the company will dredge Morrow Pond. It's got a lot of toxins buried in that sediment; they stay there if left undisturbed, but start dredging and all of a sudden, you got all sorts of toxins moving downstream again. I'm sure they will turn Morrow into a holding pond for the oil by shutting off the dam flow, but do I think they will get it cleaned up anytime soon? NO. Fact is, the Kzoo River east of Kalamazoo just became off limits to hunting for this season, probably more. That's a whole lot of hunters now scrambling for different hunting spots (myself included).

Smoke -- as soon as I heard about this spill, my first thought was your front yard getting hit by the oil. Hope it never gets there my friend.
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WHAT THE [BLEEP] IS
GOING ON AROUND HERE?

there's this guy I know that has been convinced since college that the world will end in his lifetime and specifically, in 2012.


I used to think he was just bat crazy.

now? I'm starting to wonder...
Dont have to worry about 2012 to much the way mankind is destroying the earth.I think if these companys was heald accoutable with their lifes thing would be different.Kinda like way back when the brick layers made arches.If they failed they put to death.I think they may think alot more about things then....
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I live on the River in augusta, my back yard is quite flooded from the rain . this is a back water to the river. we started getting a light smell yesterday, a bit heavier today. the rain is showing the oil flow as the rain hits it differant than the water my wife said 10 minits ago this house was up for sale . now who wants it? oily swapp anyone
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:53 PM
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I honestly dont know what to say about this. Truely a disaster here locally. You never think it can happen in your own backyard so to speak- literally for some of you guys- IN YOUR BACKYARD. It was sickening to watch the spill in the gulf, but to have it so effing close-- I am disgusted.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:24 PM
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This rain we are getting right now.... it will be spreading all the oil more than it is... here in my backyard the oil slick is thick right in the midle of the river, after this heavy rain, I don't know what is going to happen. All I do know, is one of most favorite spots to hunt is gone. A private small spot on the river, was real pretty to sit at, maybe a bird now and again. But My lab, Hunter, fetched his first bird from this spot as a 4 month old lab. I have permission here becasue the neighbor allows me in there once or twice a season when he is not deer hunting.
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this really sucks. not getting any media attention either....bah.
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